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Marc Murison's avatar

I had an art (drawing) teacher who made me go outside and find a stick, the cruder the better. Then she said okay, now draw this flower -- incredibly delicate and complex -- using just the stick and india ink. It was impossible. That was the point. She wanted me to *create* something, not attempt to replicate a photograph. My cognitive dissonance nearly brought me to tears. In the end, though, I liked what I drew, including the long drip of ink running crookedly down the paper. It was messy and crude, yet somehow an essence of the flower came through. The process of doing, and feeling, is essential.

That experience was more than a foundational lesson, it was an epiphany. It changed how I *see*. In a million years AI could never replicate or even poorly mimic the indefinable human connection, or essence, of this drawing. As you said, it's the human process that instills art with that visceral something that we all immediately recognize and resonate with (even if we can't adequately define it).

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W.S. Luk's avatar

In 1903 James Joyce defined art as "the human disposition of [...] matter for an aesthetic end", i.e. created by someone consciously manipulating materials solely to create beauty. It's a straightforward, seemingly bulletproof definition—except Joyce then defines photography (a non-human disposition of matter) and furniture (which exists for practical, not only aesthetic, ends) as not being art.

Most efforts to definitionally exclude AI from being considered "art" get tied into the same knots, a problem I feel your approach of emphasising intentionality and process helps sidestep, focusing not on a narrow technical definition but on the experience of creating and engaging with beauty. I don't agree with every point (I can accept some forms of artifice/advertising as falling under the "art" umbrella), but it echoes my own objection to AI "art"—that the pleasure of art exists in the challenge I have to do in expressing ideas beautifully or making sense of them in someone else's creation, and taking the difficulty out of it takes away the pleasure.

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